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Hammertron888 6:40 Wed Apr 26
Transfer Budget

Have seen that apparently Benitez will be given £100 million to spend this summer with Newcastle. Do you think we will actually get a decent budget for once or will it be the same old bargain basement?

If the budget is accurate for Newcastle I can only see them over taking us in the League with a top manager unless we pull out the war chest.

We have been poor this season and need to catch up from last summers fuck ups and need to rebuild the squad.

J.Riddle 7:18 Sat Apr 29
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Assuming a 50% increase from season just finishing that would be Net £54m.

I think we will need double that and we don't have anyone worth selling except Antonio £25m-£30m, which could explain why Antonio's demands are not being met to cash in as Payet?

The only way to go forward is to keep your best players and bring more top quality in to build around them. This shows with the loss of Payet. I'm sure the 2bobs said we were not a selling club anymore.

Last 3 seasons we spent according to Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/25/ranking-premier-league-clubs-spending-past-three-seasons/west-ham/

Net £36m
Net £25m
Net £24m

Alex V 7:17 Sat Apr 29
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>>> 30m for a player is no longer an outrageous ammount and smaller clubs than us have and will spend that much on one player.

Agree with that - prices look likely to take another lurch upwards. But that does not mean that the club should abandon any notion of value. Just because great players might be valued at another £10m higher or so, it doesn't mean that bad or average ones are worth another £10m as well. The challenge is still to find good players and avoid bad ones. There will still be bargains that cost little. There's still a massive benefit to buying younger players that will develop into even more valuable players later.

It's a little bit like what happened last Summer, where the club seemed willing to spend £20-25m on players, but actually that bracket of 'good' player mostly just disappeared. The good ones become mostly unreachable at higher prices, and the bad ones were that price but really bad value. Saying "we will spend £30m" can so easily slip into saying "oh we'll buy player X cos they're £30m", especially under the pressure of silly season.

13 Brentford Rd 4:37 Sat Apr 29
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The last big clubs will spend big again, we are getting left behind. They will prob all spend hundreds of million. Prices will rise again so we do need to spend big. 30m for a player is no longer an outrageous ammount and smaller clubs than us have and will spend that much on one player. Our transfer record is only 20m. Palace spent 30m on Benteke last summer and he has scored 14 already, which is more than all our strikers combined.

The club really do need

Hammertron888 3:50 Sat Apr 29
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I rhink we need a GK,RB,CB,CM,WInger,2 Strikers..... and not from the freebie and loan market! we need proven players!

Roby 3:30 Sat Apr 29
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As proof of any kind of ambition we need to be looking at £40m plus whatever we can recoup by shifting the likes of Valencia, AC, Sakho plus letting the loanees go.

Side of Ham 3:27 Sat Apr 29
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400 million for Man U? How much will the transfer budget be for the club with the next biggest capacity filled stadium, and then the one after that?

They must spend huge on players too at times to keep bums on seats surely?

Alex V 2:57 Sat Apr 29
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Well it's for 7 players according to the thing I read, which I think was based on Guillem Balague's info. I think they showed this for the last couple of years actually - they are trying to buy the world's best players almost whatever the price. Nice problem to have :).

Hammertron888 2:22 Sat Apr 29
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That only be to buy 4 players probably haha

Alex V 2:18 Sat Apr 29
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There's talk of Man Utd having a £400m budget this Summer. Puts the challenge in proper perspective I think.

Iron2010 9:50 Thu Apr 27
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The one thing I do know whilst watch the Manc derby is that Zabeleta is not one of these great players. He is being murdered !

Hammertron888 9:03 Thu Apr 27
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Thats why I siad Newcastle with that money and a manager like Benetez could overtake us, Benetez has a good eye for players.

grasshopper 8:43 Thu Apr 27
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Does anyone actually think we are capable to identifying quality players after the shambles of the summer and january transfer windows?

A new scouting network and a new manager is the first step towards identifying proper talent.

Unfortunately we are stuck with the owners

Alex V 8:32 Thu Apr 27
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Iron2010 8:00 Thu Apr 27

Great players are clearly important agreed - I'm not arguing against getting great players, but the trick is where to find them. Of the players you list only Sanchez and Lukaku were major signings and neither would really have considered us. The others were unearthed or were unfancied at lower prices - we have a chance with that approach. Leicester found three of the league's best players last season and the most expensive of those was £5m - any of the three would have chosen us above Leicester.

I just don't really believe we can buy a £30-40m player - if they're genuinely worth that price then better placed clubs than us will be after them, the demand is huge for sure-thing top players. The only players of that price we could buy would be massively overpriced players who are bad signings. We saw that last Summer - the two £20m plus players we could actually get were Ayew and Zaza, and neither were worth anywhere near that!

The only 2 ways I can see to realistically get the key players you're talking about. Either develop them ourselves from the academy and talented youth signings. Or develop expertise in scouting so we can find the gems in the market that are undervalued. We're pretty much doing neither at the moment as far as I can tell.

Sven Roeder 8:26 Thu Apr 27
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Alex
I believe if we were staying at UP we may well have allowed Payet to leave after the Euros.
Not meant as stadium dig but just feel the owners couldn't countenance telling us we were moving to the next level and then sell our best player as we move.
In the end we have ended up with the worst of all worlds.
Nothing on the pitch from Payet, complete disruption and a reduced fee received. Plus no sensible replacement. Snodgrass ! FMOB

Iron2010 8:00 Thu Apr 27
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Alex V 12:24 Thu Apr 27

I disagree with that. It seems to me that only a handful of players have a real impact on performance. The majority of premier league clubs have a very similar level of ability in the squad. It's the players with the x factor that make the difference. Look at us with Payet last year, Kane at Spurs, Sanchez at Arsenal, Lakuku at Everton, Coutinho at Liverpool etc etc

You need those couple of Gems to push on. You then have to be lucky with injuries like Leicester last year,

Charoo 7:59 Thu Apr 27
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Buy Siggurdson
Buy Hart
Buy Trippier or alternative quality right back
Freemans Jermaine Defoe
Loan Batshuyi
Bring back Oxford and Burke
Improve Antonio's contract

Send back or sell pretty much all that came in last summer - aim for a top 10 finish and be fit enough to compete for 90 minutes.

Youre welcome x

Alex V 7:20 Thu Apr 27
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>>> I think that we got the best out of Payet almost from the word go and then sold him at a handsome profit when he turned.

Firstly you won't often turn any profit on a player you buy at 28. We got very lucky there. Payet literally had to be one of the best players in the world over 18 months for us to even double our money!

Secondly we still didn't play it well. We might have got £40m plus after the Euros the previous Summer and re-invested a year earlier than we now will. Slow progress, and millions squandered.

Alex V 7:16 Thu Apr 27
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13 Brentford Rd 5:31 Thu Apr 27

You think I'm spinning it in favour of the club? I'm doing the opposite - I'm pointing out how costly it is to follow such a bad strategy!

, 6:52 Thu Apr 27
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I think that we got the best out of Payet almost from the word go and then sold him at a handsome profit when he turned moody. Antonio is also a player bought in who has done well for us and would command a healthy fee were he to go elsewhere.

Cresswell has performed well from purchase and so too have the likes of Ogbonna and Obiang, Reid, Lanzini and Kouyate.

Sure we've had some failures but more often they have come in on loan or for nothing. We need to nail this story that players who come in are underperforming when truth to tell they are playing at their standard which happens to be no better or worse than what we've already got.

Lertie Button 6:39 Thu Apr 27
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My concern is how we manage get the worst out of everyone we sign, not helped by us insisting on playing players out of position at every opportunity.
So doesn't really matter who we bring in, can sign one of the best left sided premiership players and turn him into an also ran

13 Brentford Rd 5:31 Thu Apr 27
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Alex must work for the club. Net spend being what it is just means we buy shit with no resale value. Only an employee could spin it otherwise.
Total spend is a truer reflection of commitment and ambition.

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